I hesitate to print this tip because if the casinos see too many gamblers playing this way it might end. However, I believe in sharing some of my good fortune.

Casinos especially love $1.00 and higher slot players (in fact they love all slot players) and fight each other to keep them close. This will take a season or a gambling trip to set up before you get comps for accommodations. At first they will be Sunday-Thurs. only but as you continue you will get some weekends at non-busy periods. Also, in the beginning it will be only 1-2 nights but this too will increase as you continue to play this way.

How to play:

Take a dedicated amount for this play (one hundred dollars should work. Thats what I set aside in the beginning) break the $$$ into 2 equal pots.

First find a *non progressive/multi coin machine*. ( I use $1.00 machines)
and decide on a slot club and casino chain where you like to stay. (ex. The ONE Club) I believe there are six casinos in Las Vegas on the strip.

Take $50.00 and play $1.00 at a time with your slot card in. Whatever you win take it and walk away to another similar machine. (don't forget to take your slot card with you) Put whatever you won from playing the machine back in your pocket. Take the second $50.00 and repeat on this new machine. Take this money won and put it away too. DO NOT OVERPLAY REMEMBER WHAT YOU WANT IS A FREE ROOM OFFER.

It should be possible to do this once every day you are on this trip. I normally lose about 20% on a 5 day trip doing this.

I have been doing this method for five years however, in December 2005 one of my machines hit the jackpot with $1.00 in and won $500.00 (if I had the $5.00 max. in I would have won $2500.00 This was at the Mandalay Bay.

In April 2006 using the $100.00 program on a eight day trip all my rooms were comped but it cost me a loss of $ 60.00 in the machines. The cost of the rooms were valued at $180.00 over the Easter weekend and $150.00 at a second casino downtown. The longer you play normally the more you can lose.

end of post for experienced gamblers

An explanation for the newer readers.

*non progressive/multi coin machine*.

a machine that pays according to what you risk.

each line of winnings can be multiplied by the dollars at risk.

if cherries pay $2.00 with one coin they pay $ 10.00 with 5 coins in
" bars " $20.00 with one coin they pay $ 100.00 with 5 coins in
" "7s" " $200.00 with one coin they pay $1000.00 with 5 coins in

Before you put a nickel in a machine let alone a dollar, spend as little as $2.32 and invest in the best book you can read about comps. Comp City by Max Rubin. He goes into great detail on how to maximize your comps, with the least amount of risk and investment, he is so good and bold he will even ask and get 2 or 3 first class airfare refunds from just one ticket. You can find it new or nearly new from Amazon.com.

Also visit "Las Vegas Casino Comp Secrets" and "What are COMPS?How do I get them?" TK

P.S. Rule number one about comps, Never, Never gamble for comps let the comps come to you.

Tk you are 100% right-on. As a semi-professional gambler that has everything comped up front from cash offers, chips, suites, meals, show tickets, and massages etc. there are three easy lessons. Number (1) you must learn the game first, (2) have a budget and stick to it,(3) learn money management and (3) last but not least "dress" the part and most of all Tk is right, Never chase comps. db

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I agree with everything these other posters have covered. What I am saying for free (and without buying any books) is individuals can exploit this situation at the present time. I am not trying to help the professional gamer who doesn't pay for anything already; I am trying to help those on tighter budgets.

I agree you have to know what ever game you play and should practise prior to your first casino visit and continuously for the rest of your life as long as you wish to gamble.

I only use this ploy myself because I stay at one hotel and play all my craps elsewhere. In this way I can walk away with my extra chips and not be bugged as much by casino hosts. When I want something I never have a problem getting what I request.

Never gamble and accept a loss of 20% that is bad advice. Your money management system is flawed. A casino would love to keep you there as a big loser (no insult intended). You should try to keep your game to a loss of no more than 1.4% and when the comps come you will actually will be ahead, without comps your loss is minimal. This applies to novices and pros alike, even more so if your bankroll is smaller. Slots, video poker, blackjack and craps can all be played at this rate and less, but each casino and game is different.

When people gamble for comps it is a common mistake to accept such high losses for a couple nights free. It would be cheaper just to pay for your room and have fun in Vegas then trying to earn comps.

Know your game, and what games to exploit at the casino you like to stay at. Your casino host is your ally and a very important tool. Don't think you are "Bugged as much by casino hosts" you are very much are in need of them. Why waste your good craps play if you don't capitalize on it? Casinos don't equate a good craps play (er) with the same scrutiny, if at all, as an obvious card counter. If your are not skilled at hiding (winning) chips then don't attempt it, you will cause more damage then good. I do not play for comps but why throw them away???

Some casino's are better then others to play at, there are a lot of parameters that have to be meet to make an excellent choice. No one-casino cover's it all and you can't gamble at all of them. So do your homework, know how, where, what and when to play. Win or lose you will get more bang for your buck and have fun doing it. Tk

P.S. Bossman your comment "What I am saying for free" will cost a minimum $100.00 using your system. Invest $2.32 in "Comp City" and it can possibly save/earn you hundreds+ in return.

If you have comps on the brain these are the best game to play for the biggest return on your dollar. Follow these link(s), they will give you very good advice. Here.

This casino policy has saved me many dollars. The free rooms are not a comp for gambling but an inbalance in the way some casinos cater to slot players. Play only $50.00 to $100.00 in any casino and trust me you don't normally earn a room . Comps are not that advantageous. I would guess you're lucky to earn $1.00 or $2.00 in normal comps for your play. No one has to do this or accept free rooms if they are offered I discovered what some casinos do by accident but felt sharing what I discovered is something worth consideration by the members here.

So instead of paying for a room for eight nights on this last trip in April 2006 which would have been about $1000.00 It cost me $60.00 in a slot machine.

On my previous trip in December 2005 I actually had six nights free accommodations and also made a profit of $400.00 for future accommodations. ( to use when this free room policy ends) This was not planned and like I stated earlier I don't play slots; I am a CRAPS player.

On other trips I averaged as you mentioned earlier about a 20% ($20.00) cost for my week of free rooms on the trip. What the casino wants and what most people do is play unlimited amounts when a casino gives them a room. I'm just saying EXPLOIT this program as long as it lasts.

T/K you can keep paying for your room if you prefer. It is your choice.

Any other members have similar stories of what some casinos do to attract players that do not balance the amount gambled and the "freebies received" ????

Just for the record my comps are a week at a time at the Monte Carlo, Nugget, Rio and Wynn’s to name a few haven't paid for a suite, food, spa or shows for many years. I average up-front $400 in cash or chip offers per visit. Play 80% craps and the rest blackjack. Must be doing something right.

I've learned to exploit the system to the fullest on the least amount of money and change and learn something different every visit. Most trips are very profitable, but on losing trips I try keep my losses at $500, but with the comps and up-front money/chips received usually I'm still ahead on those trips.... less the wife's shopping spree(s).

Free Rooms are comps no matter how you coat it. Comps are part of your win/loss ratio..... nuf said.


My last trip was April 2006 my comp offers that I used are:


Four nights Monaco Suite Monte Carlo
2 Tickets to Queen
2 Tickets to Billy Joel
$150. food credit, any restaurant
Spa Passes
2 free Buffet coupons
$200. in Chips
book of coupon vouchers
all other food comp'd
Limo

3 night suite Golden Nugget
$200. in chips
2 buffets
all other food comp'd
Golden Value coupon book ie. free lunch etc.
Spa massage for wife comp'd
Limo

Misc:
$100 cash voucher Excailbur
$75 cash voucher Excailbur(wife)
2 buffet's at Aladdin
All food comp at Rio and Harrah's
$100 chip MGM
4 meals comp at Outback via Casino Royale

(Comps are that advantageous)

All these comp offers were up front, received in the mail except for Wife's massages, Aladdin buffet and OutBack comps. Harrah's/Rio food comp's are through Harrahs Total Rewards Visa card points.

I believe from what I have read on this thread Turtle killer that you have a comprehension problem. What Bossman has stated may have merit and for you to discard it with a few words about comps and books seems out of line. I for one with my daughter would like Bossman to elaberate and I think your taunts and comments are uncalled for on this site.

I too have had room offers and small gifts that could not be caused by "comps" and when it is convenient I do take these casinos up on the offer.



OH **** P.S. T/K you take the quotes above from Bossman and add words to change what he has said. I think you should be censured for this and perhaps removed from additional posts here. If the moderator doesn't do anything I will.!!!!!*****

LaughlinLadies what the heck are you talking about? TK has made some very valid points. Everyone has a right to their opinion and whether you like it or not. Bossman has his opinion too, right or wrong. You don't censor someone just because you don't like his opinion.

My opinion is Bossman's advice can be a waste of money to chase/earn comps the way he says, but that's his rightful opinion. And yes, you should read a few expert books on gambling before you even step into a casino to gamble.

Get a life.


P.S. And I don't think Tk needs the free nights.

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I agree with DB. I comprehend it, hmmm.....must be "the wife".



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P.S. The definition of "comps":

Complimentary gifts used by casinos to entice players to gamble. Typical comps include free room, food and beverage.

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Please explain "iamambigshot" must be the wife. I am a widower and live with my daughter. If this is a backstabbing attack on a women who is new here; you should be ashamed.

Anyone truly interested in my opinions as a option e mail me privately.

I am tired of trying to share where all others want to do is critique.

I will try, just because I disagree with other posters; not to shoot the messanger.

In my life I have learned more by listening than by talking. I hope to continue this path.

Typical male response from I am a big....


When this person talks with a female who disagrees; there is nothing constructive to say just belittle a female for freedom of thought. You re-inforce one of the reasons why I never re-married and would not marry a gambler. I heard someone here quote "freedom of speech" I guess the interpretation is only if you are a male!


Note to moderators:

This site is quickly deteriorating (Las Vegas Direct)

Bossman you ask......." My question where did I say, "Comps are not that advantageous." ......You did.

Did you read your post? 4th sentence 2nd quote


Bossman you are mistaken and owe TK an apology. DB
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I for one (actually 2 ladies) understand exactly what Bossman was trying to offer readers. Some casinos policies give a temporary advantage to some gamblers. He was trying to advise friends who are newer to Las Vegas casinos. He pointed out one "temporary policy of some casinos" and all the gang did was belittle him.

I believe he knows how different this is from normal logic and how it is not a good policy for a person to play this way as a permanent methodology or habit. BUT if the casino(s) want to give away rooms which in a total trip cost saves the vacationer money why not consider it?

No one (except me) agreed and said this is not normally good gambling practise but may work at the present time IN SOME CASINOS. It may have ended already I don't know. But it was available and I too took advantage of the casino policy. I accepted free rooms but I never did what Bossman explained and I didn't get as second or third years invitation to return. I guess he did.

The only mistake he made was trying to share with others.

All the men who have posted have seemed very knowledgeable and believe they are truly doing and promoting the best plan but there is more than one way....at present anyway.

Bossman you are still mistaken and owe TK an apology. DB

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I have sent bossman a message telling him to withdraw his suggestions and helfull tips from this site. Whether he does or not will be his choice.

Bossman is one of our star posters and really contributes a lot to this forum. I hope you didn't scare him away

All this drama is interesting in a way, but lets all try to get back to talking about Vegas!

- LVDirect

LV DIRECT It was Canada's Victoria Day weekend and we were herding the cows from the winter pasture to summer grazing.

Did I miss anything?

I am finished with this topic and those who wanted more information have contacted me personally by e mail and some have my cell number.

I am a believer it is our responsibility to give gamblers and travelers all opinions and options; even those that if a gambler is not under control could cause them to lose savings.

I learned many years ago I could not be my brothers keeper.

I do appreciate those who posted differing thoughts but my views should be accepted too.

I am back to the saddle for the day but will check in later this week and will post when I have something I believe worthwhile sharing.